John Hall, II

John Hall, II

Male 1717 - 1808  (91 years)

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  1. 1.  John Hall, IIJohn Hall, II was born on 26 May 1717 in Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut; was christened on 26 May 1717 in Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut; died on 12 Jul 1808 in Middletown, Middlesex County, Connecticut; was buried on 16 Jul 1808 in Old Farm Hill Cemetery, Middletown, Middlesex County, Connecticut.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: GSHY-3TX
    • FindaGrave Memorial ID: 70864548
    • Group: Hall Direct Descendant
    • Group: Halls of Middletown - DNA Family 006
    • Story: 24 Jul 2022, Middletown, Middlesex County, Connecticut; The Problem of two John Halls

    Notes:

    Ancestry.com. Connecticut Town Records, pre-1870 (Barbour Collection)
    HALL, John, s. Daniel & Phebe, b. May 26, 1717 (Vol. LR2, p. 26)
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    From FindaGrave:

    Gravesite Details

    92 yrs. Wed Esther.
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    Birth:
    Ancestry.com. Connecticut, U.S., Town Birth Records, pre-1870 (Barbour Collection)
    Name:       John Hall [John Halle, Halls, Hale]
    Gender:       Male
    Birth Date:       26 May 1717
    Birth Place:       Middletown
    Parent:       Daniel
    Parent:       Phebe

    Christened:
    Ancestry.com. Connecticut, U.S., Church Record Abstracts, 1630-1920
    Name:       John Hall
    Father:       Daniel Hall
    Baptism Date:       26 May 1717
    Baptism Place:       Middletown, Connecticut, USA

    FamilySearch ID:
    https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GSHY-3TX

    FindaGrave Memorial ID:
    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/70864548

    Group:
    A person who is a direct descendant of any colonial New England Hall Family

    Group:
    Descendants of John Hall and Esther Willicke of Middletown, Connecticut

    Story:
    The John Hall who married Esther Hubbard and the John Hall who married Mary Willis were two different people. This is easily demonstrated because they both have children being born at the same time. However, many esearchers conflate these two different John Halls.

    My working assumption - and this is something that I am currently working on for the Hall Families of New England study I am involved with (https://www.albionseed.com) - is that the John Hall born to Daniel Hall and Phebe Ward in 1717 was the John Hall who married Esther Hubbard and died in 1808 and is buried with his wife in the Old Farm Hill Cemetery in Middletown.

    The key records of that family from the Barbour collection are:

    Ancestry.com. Connecticut Town Records, pre-1870 (Barbour Collection)

    HALL, John, s. Daniel & Phebe, b. May 26, 1717 (Vol. LR2, p. 26)

    HALL, John, 2nd, m. Esther HUBBARD, Sept. 21, 1749 (Vol. 2, p. 257)
    ---, Esther, d. John & Esther, b. July 20, 1750 (Vol. 2, p. 257)
    ---, John, s. John & Esther, b. Apr. 27, 1752 (Vol. 2, p. 247)
    ---, Elizabeth, d. Jno. & Esther, b. May 15, 1754 (Vol. 2, p. 257)
    ---, Hannah, d. Jno.. & Esther, b. Mar. 29, 1756 (Vol. 2, p. 257)
    ---, David, s. Jno. & Esther, b. Feb. 15, 1758 (Vol. 2, p. 257)
    ---, Phebe, d. Jno. & Esther, b. Mar. 12 1760 (Vol. 2, p. 257)
    ---, Jonathan, s. Jno & Esther, b. Mar. 12, 1762 (Vol. 2, p. 257)
    ---, Ruth, d. Jno. & Esther, b. Sept. 13, 1764 (Vol. 2, p. 257)
    ---, John, d. July 16, 1808 (Vol. 2, p. 257)

    That death date for John at aged 92 based on the headstone with the memorial for Esther also in same cemetery with death in 1797 seems like good evidence for this John being the son of Daniel Hall and Phebe Ward.

    The records for the John Hall and Mary Willis family give fewer clues.

    HALL, John, Carpenter, m. Mary WILLIS, Dec. 14, 1752 (Vol. 2, p. 344)
    ---, John, s. John & Mary, b. Jan. 22, 1753 (Vol. 2, p. 344)
    ---, Mary, d. John & Mary, b. Dec. 15, 1754 (Vol. 2, p. 344)
    ---, Thomas, s. John & Mary, b. Oct. 14, 1756 (Vol. 2, p. 244)
    ---, William, s. John & Mary, b. Nov. 6, 1758 (Vol. 2, p. 344)

    A death record for a John Hall in Middletown of 25 December 1786 has been put up, but I cannot find the source for this so it is difficult to prove who it is for (eg, age at death).

    The record below has been widely interpreted are being Mary's death record.

    HALL, w. John, d. Oct. 1, 1762 (Vol. 1, p. 6)

    This is definitely not Mary (Willis) Hall. FindaGrave morial for Mary Hall of Hartford died in 1825 where she is represented as widow of John Hall of Middletown and the sister of her daughter in law memorialized on the same memorial is more convincing:

    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/146471549

    At this point I do not know who the widow of John who died in 1762 was.

    Died:
    Age 92

    John married Esther Hubbard on 21 Sep 1749 in Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut. Esther (daughter of Nathaniel Hubbard and Sarah Johnson) was born on 14 Feb 1726/27 in Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut; died in Dec 1797; was buried after Dec 1797 in Old Farm Hill Cemetery, Middletown, Middlesex County, Connecticut. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Esther Hall  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 20 Jul 1750 in Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut; died in Unknown.
    2. 3. John Hall  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 27 Apr 1752 in Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut; died in Unknown.
    3. 4. Elizabeth Hall  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 15 May 1754 in Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut; died in Unknown.
    4. 5. Hannah Hall  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 29 Mar 1756 in Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut; died in Unknown.
    5. 6. David Hall  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 15 Feb 1758 in Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut; died in Unknown.
    6. 7. Phebe Hall  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 12 Mar 1760 in Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut; died in Unknown.
    7. 8. Jonathan Hall  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 12 Mar 1762 in Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut; died in Unknown.
    8. 9. Ruth Hall  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 13 Sep 1764 in Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut; died in Unknown.