John Hall, II

John Hall, II

Male 1717 - 1808  (91 years)

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  • Name John Hall 
    Suffix II 
    Born 26 May 1717  Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Ancestry.com. Connecticut, U.S., Town Birth Records, pre-1870 (Barbour Collection)
      Name:       John Hall [John Halle, Halls, Hale]
      Gender:       Male
      Birth Date:       26 May 1717
      Birth Place:       Middletown
      Parent:       Daniel
      Parent:       Phebe
    Christened 26 May 1717  Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Ancestry.com. Connecticut, U.S., Church Record Abstracts, 1630-1920
      Name:       John Hall
      Father:       Daniel Hall
      Baptism Date:       26 May 1717
      Baptism Place:       Middletown, Connecticut, USA
    Gender Male 
    Group Hall Direct Descendant 
    • A person who is a direct descendant of any colonial New England Hall Family
    Group Halls of Middletown - DNA Family 006 
    • Descendants of John Hall and Esther Willicke of Middletown, Connecticut
    FamilySearch ID GSHY-3TX 
    FindaGrave Memorial ID 70864548 
    Died 12 Jul 1808  Middletown, Middlesex County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Age 92
    Buried 16 Jul 1808  Old Farm Hill Cemetery, Middletown, Middlesex County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Story 24 Jul 2022  Middletown, Middlesex County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location 
    The Problem of two John Halls 
    • The John Hall who married Esther Hubbard and the John Hall who married Mary Willis were two different people. This is easily demonstrated because they both have children being born at the same time. However, many esearchers conflate these two different John Halls.

      My working assumption - and this is something that I am currently working on for the Hall Families of New England study I am involved with (https://www.albionseed.com) - is that the John Hall born to Daniel Hall and Phebe Ward in 1717 was the John Hall who married Esther Hubbard and died in 1808 and is buried with his wife in the Old Farm Hill Cemetery in Middletown.

      The key records of that family from the Barbour collection are:

      Ancestry.com. Connecticut Town Records, pre-1870 (Barbour Collection)

      HALL, John, s. Daniel & Phebe, b. May 26, 1717 (Vol. LR2, p. 26)

      HALL, John, 2nd, m. Esther HUBBARD, Sept. 21, 1749 (Vol. 2, p. 257)
      ---, Esther, d. John & Esther, b. July 20, 1750 (Vol. 2, p. 257)
      ---, John, s. John & Esther, b. Apr. 27, 1752 (Vol. 2, p. 247)
      ---, Elizabeth, d. Jno. & Esther, b. May 15, 1754 (Vol. 2, p. 257)
      ---, Hannah, d. Jno.. & Esther, b. Mar. 29, 1756 (Vol. 2, p. 257)
      ---, David, s. Jno. & Esther, b. Feb. 15, 1758 (Vol. 2, p. 257)
      ---, Phebe, d. Jno. & Esther, b. Mar. 12 1760 (Vol. 2, p. 257)
      ---, Jonathan, s. Jno & Esther, b. Mar. 12, 1762 (Vol. 2, p. 257)
      ---, Ruth, d. Jno. & Esther, b. Sept. 13, 1764 (Vol. 2, p. 257)
      ---, John, d. July 16, 1808 (Vol. 2, p. 257)

      That death date for John at aged 92 based on the headstone with the memorial for Esther also in same cemetery with death in 1797 seems like good evidence for this John being the son of Daniel Hall and Phebe Ward.

      The records for the John Hall and Mary Willis family give fewer clues.

      HALL, John, Carpenter, m. Mary WILLIS, Dec. 14, 1752 (Vol. 2, p. 344)
      ---, John, s. John & Mary, b. Jan. 22, 1753 (Vol. 2, p. 344)
      ---, Mary, d. John & Mary, b. Dec. 15, 1754 (Vol. 2, p. 344)
      ---, Thomas, s. John & Mary, b. Oct. 14, 1756 (Vol. 2, p. 244)
      ---, William, s. John & Mary, b. Nov. 6, 1758 (Vol. 2, p. 344)

      A death record for a John Hall in Middletown of 25 December 1786 has been put up, but I cannot find the source for this so it is difficult to prove who it is for (eg, age at death).

      The record below has been widely interpreted are being Mary's death record.

      HALL, w. John, d. Oct. 1, 1762 (Vol. 1, p. 6)

      This is definitely not Mary (Willis) Hall. FindaGrave morial for Mary Hall of Hartford died in 1825 where she is represented as widow of John Hall of Middletown and the sister of her daughter in law memorialized on the same memorial is more convincing:

      https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/146471549

      At this point I do not know who the widow of John who died in 1762 was.
    Person ID I21501  New England Hall Families Master Tree
    Last Modified 6 Oct 2022 

    Father Captain Daniel Hall,   b. 12 Jan 1688/89, Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 26 Oct 1751, Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 62 years) 
    Mother Phebe Ward,   b. 31 Jan 1694/95, Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Unknown 
    Married 26 Mar 1713  Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F10038  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Esther Hubbard,   b. 14 Feb 1726/27, Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Dec 1797  (Age 70 years) 
    Married 21 Sep 1749  Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Esther Hall,   b. 20 Jul 1750, Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Unknown
     2. John Hall,   b. 27 Apr 1752, Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Unknown
     3. Elizabeth Hall,   b. 15 May 1754, Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Unknown
     4. Hannah Hall,   b. 29 Mar 1756, Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Unknown
     5. David Hall,   b. 15 Feb 1758, Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Unknown
     6. Phebe Hall,   b. 12 Mar 1760, Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Unknown
     7. Jonathan Hall,   b. 12 Mar 1762, Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Unknown
     8. Ruth Hall,   b. 13 Sep 1764, Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Unknown
    Last Modified 24 Jul 2022 
    Family ID F10195  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 26 May 1717 - Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsChristened - 26 May 1717 - Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 21 Sep 1749 - Middletown, Hartford County, Connecticut Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 12 Jul 1808 - Middletown, Middlesex County, Connecticut Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBuried - 16 Jul 1808 - Old Farm Hill Cemetery, Middletown, Middlesex County, Connecticut Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsStory - The Problem of two John Halls - 24 Jul 2022 - Middletown, Middlesex County, Connecticut Link to Google Earth
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  • Badges
    Halls of Middletown, Connecticut - DNA Family 006
    Halls of Middletown, Connecticut - DNA Family 006

  • Notes 
    • Ancestry.com. Connecticut Town Records, pre-1870 (Barbour Collection)
      HALL, John, s. Daniel & Phebe, b. May 26, 1717 (Vol. LR2, p. 26)
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      From FindaGrave:

      Gravesite Details

      92 yrs. Wed Esther.
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