Elizabeth Clara "Lizzie" Behrs

Elizabeth Clara "Lizzie" Behrs

Female 1854 - 1920  (66 years)

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  • Name Elizabeth Clara "Lizzie" Behrs 
    Nickname Lizzie 
    Born 7 Jul 1854  Albany, Albany County, New York Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Female 
    FamilySearch ID MWRF-GFD 
    FindaGrave Memorial ID 160234 
    Died 13 Nov 1920  Salt Lake City, Salt Lake County, Utah Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Buried 15 Nov 1920  Mount Olivet Cemetery, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake County, Utah Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I14160  New England Hall Families Master Tree
    Last Modified 6 Aug 2019 

    Father John Paul Behrs,   b. Abt 1833, Prussia, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1893, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 60 years) 
    Mother Sabina Elisabeth Mertes,   b. Cal 8 Nov 1834, Trier, Stadtkreis Trier, Rheinland-Pfalz, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 19 Sep 1909, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 74 years) 
    Married Bef 1854 
    Family ID F6029  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Albert Eustis Hall,   b. 11 Jan 1855, Worcester, Worcester County, Massachusetts Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1 Jul 1900, Worcester, Worcester County, Massachusetts Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 45 years) 
    Married 17 Sep 1881  Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • From Jeff Hall:

      I have sent a letter to the Wisconsin Vital Records office as of Oct. 24, 2000 requesting the marriage certificate of Albert and Elizabeth as she noted in one of her letters to William Edgar Hall that she was married to Albert Eustis in Milwaukee.

      Vital Records
      P.O. Box 309
      Madison, WI.
      53701-0309
      cost $7.00

      In January of 2001 I received word from Wisconsin V.R. that they have no record of the marriage of Elizabeth and Albert.  They said their files prior to 1907 are incomplete and that I should inquire directly to the city of Milwaukee.

      The two were supposed to have been divorced. It was said to have started in Illinois and ended in Mass?
    Divorced Abt 1885  Illinois Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Marriage Status Divorced 
    Children 
     1. William Edgar "Willie" Hall,   b. 9 Jul 1882, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 29 Nov 1965  (Age 83 years)
     2. Clayton Edison Hall,   b. 22 Aug 1884, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 22 Apr 1886, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 1 years)
    Last Modified 1 May 2019 
    Family ID F6028  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Peter "Piere" Engleman,   b. 3 Feb 1852, Luxembourg Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 19 Nov 1918, Magna, Salt Lake County, Utah Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 66 years) 
    Married May 1890  Hammond, Lake County, Indiana Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Jesse Mae Engleman,   b. 9 Sep 1893, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 15 Dec 1974, Redding, Shasta County, California Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 81 years)
    Last Modified 6 Aug 2019 
    Family ID F6033  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 7 Jul 1854 - Albany, Albany County, New York Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 17 Sep 1881 - Milwaukee, Milwaukee County, Wisconsin Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDivorced - Abt 1885 - Illinois Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - May 1890 - Hammond, Lake County, Indiana Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 13 Nov 1920 - Salt Lake City, Salt Lake County, Utah Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBuried - 15 Nov 1920 - Mount Olivet Cemetery, Salt Lake City, Salt Lake County, Utah Link to Google Earth
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    Halls of Bradford, Massachusetts - DNA Family 002
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  • Notes 
    • Her people seem to have come from the Chicago area and were not well off financially. 

      Elizabeth is probably the oldest of thirteen children, had little formal education, and from her letters went to work about ten years of age. 

      She and Albert E. Hall seem to have eloped to Milwaukee, Wis. to be married. She had William Edgar Hall 10 months later, and then another child Clayton 2 years later. William Edgar Hall says he was told they fought a lot and were eventually divorced. It is said that Albert Eustis's father William Eustis wanted them divorced and made life tough for Elizabeth so she finally agreed to a divorce. It is also said that Miranda Sarah Hall, Albert's mother had nothing against Elizabeth but wanted her son to marry his cousin so that the Hall family money would stay in the Hall and Fiske families. William Edgar Hall tells the story that when his grandfather heard that Miranda had called her niece , Albert's cousin,  west to see Albert the father packed Albert off posthaste on the next train for Denver, Colorado, and thence to Leadville, Colorado where Albert lived out on the range for 2 years. This apparently didn't solve the problem as Albert eventually married Mable Fiske, his cousin.

      William Edgar Hall was taken from Elizabeth possibly for money and she was left with Clayton.  She apparently made one trip East in 1889 to see her son and ex-husband in Worcester, but came at the inopportune time of William Judson's wedding and her former husband, Albert, was escorting his cousin to the affair. She writes that she was wisked off to a cheap hotel in downtown Worcester without windows and had no food for 24 hours. She returned to Chicago and married Mr. Engleman 5 months later in May of 1890.

      They lived in Salt Lake City in the early 1900's at 808 Lincoln Ave. About 1907 she claimed to have had 3 sisters and two brothers. She did not like following her husband to mining camps at high altitudes because she had breathing problems and ear trouble she attributed to the elevation. In one of her letters she states she recovered slowly from Typhoid. She lost her hearing about 1903.

      She always signed her letters to William Edgar, "I remain your loving mother, Elizabeth Engleman".  He apparently didn't write as frequently later on as he could have. I believe he was afraid that she would want to come to live with him and be financially dependent upon him.

      In personal e-mail correspondence with Gloria Engle she said that her mother Jessie Mae noted that her mother, Elizabeth Englemann wasted away quickly in front of her eyes. That she was always hungry and ate but kept loosing weight. Sounds like diabetes mellitus or cancer to me, W.C.H. 

      The photo of Elizabeth with her two granddaughters was probably taken just a few months before she died. Gloria also does not remember Elizabeth Behrs Englemann being called anything but Lizzie. I have conflicting dates of death, one for Nov. 20, 1919 and another for Nov. 13, 1920.  The 1919 death date is from the LDS records and is possibly more accurate.

      A phone call by Wm. C. Hall 2/2002 to the Mt. Olivet Cemetery in Salt Lake, Utah revealed that it does exist, and that Elizabeth C. Engleman is indeed buried there with her husband listed as Peter (Piere) Engleman. Their records at that time did not include any obituaries nor was the secretary able to tell me her exact date of death, however she did have the records that showed she was interred Nov. 15, 1920. She is in Section U, Lot 115, Plot 11. Her husband is in Plot 10. The cemetery is located in Salt Lake City proper in the northeast corner of the city at 13th East and 5th South.
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      From FindaGrave:

      Parents: John Paul BEHRS
      Elizabeth MERTES

      First husband: Albert Eustis Hall (divorced)
      Second husband: Peter Engleman

      Mother of William Hall, Clayton Hall, and Jessie Mae Engleman